Daniel Paul Marshall’s brief but excellent glimpse into translation and its difficulties.
O at the Edges
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Daniel Paul Marshall’s brief but excellent glimpse into translation and its difficulties.
O at the Edges 
One of my primary philosophical objections to the translations and subsequent interpretations of ancient sacred texts is the nuance lost without the cultural frame of reference. Particularly when they purport to address such crucial life issues for adherents.
I’ve missed these. They’re a bit over my head, but they make me get up on my mental tippy toes.
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i don’t see you point sorry as this isn’t an ancient sacred text, but was written between the late 40’s to perhaps the late 50’s.
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The point has to do with translation
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yes, but the translation isn’t of an ancient sacred text, so i was just confused is all. could you clarify what you mean by this?
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Certainly. At least I will try. When you mentioned errors you found in the interpretations, I mentioned my own misgivings about translations, and interpretations of translations, by using sacred texts as.an example.
My problem with the Gospels, for example, having lost much meaning and certainly nuance, from the original Aramaic.
I enjoy the translations because of the limitation of the original languages. Your example in your comment of “chuckle” being written as the wind laughing like a child is great!
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i get you now. thanks for the clarification. yes there are limits in Korean; not if you write in the usual mood of the Korean poet from that time. i like other poets of Chun-su’s generation, but they are much more austere. Chun-su shines for me in that he doesn’t take life, himself or literature for that matter as serious as his peers. this may have something to do with his more comfortable & affluent family life, whereas other poets of his time, Kim Chi-ha, Chan Sang pyeon, Shin Kyeong-rim, all were poor, lived with the poor, or even suffered torture by their own government or Japan for not conforming politically; for Sang-pyeong it was infertility.
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I am very leery of translated works, especially poetry but also fiction in which writers use lyrical language rather than merely straightforward storytelling.
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i would tell to maintain that vigilance, but in my circumstance i have done this as i think Chun-su is limited by his language: Korean isn’t a lyrical language & you only find a release from the firmness of the language in onomatopoeia, which let’s say in my use of the word ‘chuckle’ for laugh has no relative in Chun-su’s era. if he was writing now he might put ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ, which would look very odd if altered into a verb & is really just a version of the Korean lol.
Chun-su was quite different from other writers of his time, he is playful & there is a nonsensical atmosphere to his work, which was a conscious choice of his. but Korean isn’t really prepared for his sort of writing, it isn’t rife with synonyms; if he wanted to get near to something like ‘chuckle’ he’d have to use a simile, the wind laughed like a child.
in short i chose to use lyrical language to approach the light hearted, almost nursery rhyme aspect of Chun-su’s poetry. but your observation is accurate, this is not a true rendering, unless my suspicions of Chun-su’s subjective leanings are correct. which i’ll probably never prove.
much obliged to you for reading.
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